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		<title>By: chuhin</title>
		<link>http://bayislandbonsai.com/2009/07/12/where-does-the-accent-go/#comment-171</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not me telling you to study more. I was Akio telling me (uncermoniously) to study more. Maybe we both should study more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not me telling you to study more. I was Akio telling me (uncermoniously) to study more. Maybe we both should study more.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://bayislandbonsai.com/2009/07/12/where-does-the-accent-go/#comment-170</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi all...  As Jonas mentions in one of his recent posts (see bonsaitonight.com), this tree was one of those &quot;is it large or is it medium&quot; trees.  The result of the display practice showed that in a 6 foot space it definitely requires a 3-point display.  So it needs a 2nd tree, or stone, or scroll with it.

I&#039;m thinking to see if Mas has a suiseki that I could use instead of a 2nd tree.  I am imagining s so-called &quot;shore stone&quot; or &quot;island stone&quot; - these are mountain-shaped stones (yamagata) that evoke rocky cliffs or islands etc to the viewer.   (The tree is a &quot;shore pine&quot;, which grows along the Pacific coast of CA and Oregon.  It&#039;s the same species as the lodgepole pine.)

Any thoughts on that?

Meanwhile, the photos above show very clearly that the rule on accent placement does hold fast in this case!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all&#8230;  As Jonas mentions in one of his recent posts (see bonsaitonight.com), this tree was one of those &#8220;is it large or is it medium&#8221; trees.  The result of the display practice showed that in a 6 foot space it definitely requires a 3-point display.  So it needs a 2nd tree, or stone, or scroll with it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking to see if Mas has a suiseki that I could use instead of a 2nd tree.  I am imagining s so-called &#8220;shore stone&#8221; or &#8220;island stone&#8221; &#8211; these are mountain-shaped stones (yamagata) that evoke rocky cliffs or islands etc to the viewer.   (The tree is a &#8220;shore pine&#8221;, which grows along the Pacific coast of CA and Oregon.  It&#8217;s the same species as the lodgepole pine.)</p>
<p>Any thoughts on that?</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the photos above show very clearly that the rule on accent placement does hold fast in this case!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Tea</title>
		<link>http://bayislandbonsai.com/2009/07/12/where-does-the-accent-go/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Tea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL,  I like that hard and fast rule.  It seems that there are strict  rules in bonsai, but then, there is a higher level of understanding  that allows us to break the rules.  Hard to explain, but I think I get it.  I&#039;ll keep study though!

I&#039;m excited to meet Akio!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL,  I like that hard and fast rule.  It seems that there are strict  rules in bonsai, but then, there is a higher level of understanding  that allows us to break the rules.  Hard to explain, but I think I get it.  I&#8217;ll keep study though!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m excited to meet Akio!</p>
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		<title>By: chuhin</title>
		<link>http://bayislandbonsai.com/2009/07/12/where-does-the-accent-go/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuhin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Kokufu books are great for studying pot selections and (usually) stands. But they do the same as B.I.B. does when it comes to photography - they &quot;push&quot; the individual displays together. The chuhin displays in the book are not how they look at the show.

We do the same thing in our book. I (Morten) am actually an advocate of not shooting displays for the book. I feel they don&#039;t add value since we also &quot;scrunch&quot; them up to get rid of the empty space in the photos.

I was almost sure that Koku Fu pushed the displays together for photagraphy, but was not 100% sure. But this morning I could walk out, into the backyard and ask Akio Kondo - a Koku Fu winner. 

So, good eye Peter and Tom.
And, Akio gave me the hard and fast rule on where the accent plant goes: It always goes next to the small tree, except when it doesn&#039;t. If you are not sure, study more. (These masters can be so helpful.) :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kokufu books are great for studying pot selections and (usually) stands. But they do the same as B.I.B. does when it comes to photography &#8211; they &#8220;push&#8221; the individual displays together. The chuhin displays in the book are not how they look at the show.</p>
<p>We do the same thing in our book. I (Morten) am actually an advocate of not shooting displays for the book. I feel they don&#8217;t add value since we also &#8220;scrunch&#8221; them up to get rid of the empty space in the photos.</p>
<p>I was almost sure that Koku Fu pushed the displays together for photagraphy, but was not 100% sure. But this morning I could walk out, into the backyard and ask Akio Kondo &#8211; a Koku Fu winner. </p>
<p>So, good eye Peter and Tom.<br />
And, Akio gave me the hard and fast rule on where the accent plant goes: It always goes next to the small tree, except when it doesn&#8217;t. If you are not sure, study more. (These masters can be so helpful.) <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Peter Tea</title>
		<link>http://bayislandbonsai.com/2009/07/12/where-does-the-accent-go/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Tea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Tom,

I saw the picture that you sent to Boon.  Yes, I was generalizing.  They do move them closer to one or the other tree, but there are some where they have it right in the middle.  I kind of wondered why they did that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom,</p>
<p>I saw the picture that you sent to Boon.  Yes, I was generalizing.  They do move them closer to one or the other tree, but there are some where they have it right in the middle.  I kind of wondered why they did that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom C. Knoblauch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom C. Knoblauch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter&#039;s observation&#039;s in the Kokufu books might be to generalized. Tending towards the center, leaning  closer to the smaller tree. An exception can be found in Book #82 pg68 where on a cascade stand a knarled Black Pine in a round dish holds its lush green foliage above a small accent below, like a drop from a cliff. The second tree faces it like a splash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter&#8217;s observation&#8217;s in the Kokufu books might be to generalized. Tending towards the center, leaning  closer to the smaller tree. An exception can be found in Book #82 pg68 where on a cascade stand a knarled Black Pine in a round dish holds its lush green foliage above a small accent below, like a drop from a cliff. The second tree faces it like a splash.</p>
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		<title>By: Learning the art of bonsai display &#171; Bonsai Tonight</title>
		<link>http://bayislandbonsai.com/2009/07/12/where-does-the-accent-go/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Learning the art of bonsai display &#171; Bonsai Tonight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the pine looks good with the accent near by, the shimpaku appears lonely without it. Better, we thought, to accent the second [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the pine looks good with the accent near by, the shimpaku appears lonely without it. Better, we thought, to accent the second [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Tea</title>
		<link>http://bayislandbonsai.com/2009/07/12/where-does-the-accent-go/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Tea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The more I look at the pictures, I move towards the accent being with the small tree.  At first it looks a little odd, but it really does keep the overall display  balanced.  I do noticed though that in the Kokufu books, the accent always seem to be right in the middle of the medium and small tree.  What do you guys think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I look at the pictures, I move towards the accent being with the small tree.  At first it looks a little odd, but it really does keep the overall display  balanced.  I do noticed though that in the Kokufu books, the accent always seem to be right in the middle of the medium and small tree.  What do you guys think?</p>
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